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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/122657-t-compiler/wg-nll/topic/weekly%20meeting%202019.03.27/near/161850792" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> pnkfelix <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/122657-t-compiler/wg-nll/topic/weekly.20meeting.202019.2E03.2E27.html#161850792">(Mar 27 2019 at 11:42)</a>:</h4>
<p>A quick Q for <span class="user-group-mention" data-user-group-id="491">@WG-nll</span> : should we bother with a formal meeting tonight? Should we plan to just cancel the current meeting slot? I can continue triaging issues as I have been doing, but I am not sure we are getting much value out of the meeting at this point, and I'd love to free up my Wednesday evenings.</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/122657-t-compiler/wg-nll/topic/weekly%20meeting%202019.03.27/near/161850943" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> lqd <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/122657-t-compiler/wg-nll/topic/weekly.20meeting.202019.2E03.2E27.html#161850943">(Mar 27 2019 at 11:44)</a>:</h4>
<p>as you wish, I guess we can have "office hours" (I'm assuming it means questions/talking amongst ourselves) in a mostly async manner on zulip efficiently (eg as we've been doing for the higher-rank / universes errors) ?</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/122657-t-compiler/wg-nll/topic/weekly%20meeting%202019.03.27/near/161851547" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> davidtwco <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/122657-t-compiler/wg-nll/topic/weekly.20meeting.202019.2E03.2E27.html#161851547">(Mar 27 2019 at 11:53)</a>:</h4>
<p>I think that makes sense.</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/122657-t-compiler/wg-nll/topic/weekly%20meeting%202019.03.27/near/161858524" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> pnkfelix <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/122657-t-compiler/wg-nll/topic/weekly.20meeting.202019.2E03.2E27.html#161858524">(Mar 27 2019 at 13:27)</a>:</h4>
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<p>I guess we can have "office hours" (I'm assuming it means questions/talking amongst ourselves) in a mostly async manner on zulip efficiently</p>
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<p>Yes, I think either (1.) async assistance, or (2.) one-off synchronous chats scheduled in an ad-hoc manner as needed, seems to make more sense right now than a standing meeting for them.</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/122657-t-compiler/wg-nll/topic/weekly%20meeting%202019.03.27/near/161863402" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> Santiago Pastorino <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/122657-t-compiler/wg-nll/topic/weekly.20meeting.202019.2E03.2E27.html#161863402">(Mar 27 2019 at 14:20)</a>:</h4>
<p>lately I was not that involved with nll so whatever you decide would be ok</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/122657-t-compiler/wg-nll/topic/weekly%20meeting%202019.03.27/near/161863422" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> Santiago Pastorino <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/122657-t-compiler/wg-nll/topic/weekly.20meeting.202019.2E03.2E27.html#161863422">(Mar 27 2019 at 14:20)</a>:</h4>
<p>after Rust Latam I need to see what to do, main thing is to invest time to finish <code>Place 2.0</code></p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/122657-t-compiler/wg-nll/topic/weekly%20meeting%202019.03.27/near/161894122" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> Matthew Jasper <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/122657-t-compiler/wg-nll/topic/weekly.20meeting.202019.2E03.2E27.html#161894122">(Mar 27 2019 at 19:46)</a>:</h4>
<p><span class="user-mention" data-user-id="116083">@pnkfelix</span> are you planning to update <a href="https://github.com/rust-lang/rust/issues/59159" target="_blank" title="https://github.com/rust-lang/rust/issues/59159">#59159</a> with the changes described in <a href="https://github.com/rust-lang/rust/pull/58739#issuecomment-476387184" target="_blank" title="https://github.com/rust-lang/rust/pull/58739#issuecomment-476387184">https://github.com/rust-lang/rust/pull/58739#issuecomment-476387184</a> ?</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/122657-t-compiler/wg-nll/topic/weekly%20meeting%202019.03.27/near/161894364" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> pnkfelix <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/122657-t-compiler/wg-nll/topic/weekly.20meeting.202019.2E03.2E27.html#161894364">(Mar 27 2019 at 19:49)</a>:</h4>
<p><span class="user-mention" data-user-id="116118">@Matthew Jasper</span> I’m confused: i reviewed the PR and thought you had already made the necessary changes. (Did I dream this?)</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/122657-t-compiler/wg-nll/topic/weekly%20meeting%202019.03.27/near/161894446" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> Matthew Jasper <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/122657-t-compiler/wg-nll/topic/weekly.20meeting.202019.2E03.2E27.html#161894446">(Mar 27 2019 at 19:50)</a>:</h4>
<p>"The associated issue includes a history of the event and a statement that we will, prior to converting to a hard error, be doing a more thorough evaluation of the models" - I'm talking about this</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/122657-t-compiler/wg-nll/topic/weekly%20meeting%202019.03.27/near/161894454" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> pnkfelix <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/122657-t-compiler/wg-nll/topic/weekly.20meeting.202019.2E03.2E27.html#161894454">(Mar 27 2019 at 19:50)</a>:</h4>
<p>Oh you are talking about the tracking issue</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/122657-t-compiler/wg-nll/topic/weekly%20meeting%202019.03.27/near/161894461" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> pnkfelix <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/122657-t-compiler/wg-nll/topic/weekly.20meeting.202019.2E03.2E27.html#161894461">(Mar 27 2019 at 19:50)</a>:</h4>
<p>I’ll take care of that, yes</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/122657-t-compiler/wg-nll/topic/weekly%20meeting%202019.03.27/near/161894487" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> pnkfelix <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/122657-t-compiler/wg-nll/topic/weekly.20meeting.202019.2E03.2E27.html#161894487">(Mar 27 2019 at 19:50)</a>:</h4>
<p>Not sure if it will happen tonight; but it will happen tomorrow at the latest</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/122657-t-compiler/wg-nll/topic/weekly%20meeting%202019.03.27/near/161894564" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> centril <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/122657-t-compiler/wg-nll/topic/weekly.20meeting.202019.2E03.2E27.html#161894564">(Mar 27 2019 at 19:52)</a>:</h4>
<p>btw... re. <a href="https://github.com/rust-lang/rust/pull/59114" target="_blank" title="https://github.com/rust-lang/rust/pull/59114">https://github.com/rust-lang/rust/pull/59114</a>, we should discuss this on T-lang mtg tomorrow and plot the course ahead</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/122657-t-compiler/wg-nll/topic/weekly%20meeting%202019.03.27/near/161927755" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> pnkfelix <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/122657-t-compiler/wg-nll/topic/weekly.20meeting.202019.2E03.2E27.html#161927755">(Mar 28 2019 at 06:37)</a>:</h4>
<p><span class="user-mention" data-user-id="126931">@centril</span> it’s blocked on the 2-phase borrow PR, which only started FCP 2 days ago, so that won’t be merged for (at least) 5 days</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/122657-t-compiler/wg-nll/topic/weekly%20meeting%202019.03.27/near/161927972" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> centril <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/122657-t-compiler/wg-nll/topic/weekly.20meeting.202019.2E03.2E27.html#161927972">(Mar 28 2019 at 06:43)</a>:</h4>
<p><span class="user-mention" data-user-id="116083">@pnkfelix</span> we can start the process for the 2015 PR in parallel to speed it up</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/122657-t-compiler/wg-nll/topic/weekly%20meeting%202019.03.27/near/161942657" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> pnkfelix <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/122657-t-compiler/wg-nll/topic/weekly.20meeting.202019.2E03.2E27.html#161942657">(Mar 28 2019 at 11:21)</a>:</h4>
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<p>"The associated issue includes a history of the event and a statement that we will, prior to converting to a hard error, be doing a more thorough evaluation of the models" - I'm talking about this</p>
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<p>okay that was a fun task. (done now, its in the description for <a href="https://github.com/rust-lang/rust/issues/59159" target="_blank" title="https://github.com/rust-lang/rust/issues/59159">#59159</a>)</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/122657-t-compiler/wg-nll/topic/weekly%20meeting%202019.03.27/near/161942998" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> centril <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/122657-t-compiler/wg-nll/topic/weekly.20meeting.202019.2E03.2E27.html#161942998">(Mar 28 2019 at 11:26)</a>:</h4>
<p><span class="user-mention" data-user-id="116083">@pnkfelix</span> if this PLT/compiler development thing doesn't work out for you, you can always try out as a historian ;)</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/122657-t-compiler/wg-nll/topic/weekly%20meeting%202019.03.27/near/161943042" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> pnkfelix <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/122657-t-compiler/wg-nll/topic/weekly.20meeting.202019.2E03.2E27.html#161943042">(Mar 28 2019 at 11:27)</a>:</h4>
<p>its that or professional YouTuber</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/122657-t-compiler/wg-nll/topic/weekly%20meeting%202019.03.27/near/161943135" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> pnkfelix <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/122657-t-compiler/wg-nll/topic/weekly.20meeting.202019.2E03.2E27.html#161943135">(Mar 28 2019 at 11:28)</a>:</h4>
<p>I kept rewriting the dates at the top of the history with 2019-03-xx, then "correcting" to 2018-03-xx... and then eventually realizing "no... no... this has been going on for over two years..."</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/122657-t-compiler/wg-nll/topic/weekly%20meeting%202019.03.27/near/161943578" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> lqd <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/122657-t-compiler/wg-nll/topic/weekly.20meeting.202019.2E03.2E27.html#161943578">(Mar 28 2019 at 11:35)</a>:</h4>
<p>the dates at the bottom should be 2019 ?</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/122657-t-compiler/wg-nll/topic/weekly%20meeting%202019.03.27/near/161943980" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> pnkfelix <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/122657-t-compiler/wg-nll/topic/weekly.20meeting.202019.2E03.2E27.html#161943980">(Mar 28 2019 at 11:41)</a>:</h4>
<p>ah yes thank you <span class="user-mention" data-user-id="116113">@lqd</span></p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/122657-t-compiler/wg-nll/topic/weekly%20meeting%202019.03.27/near/162573245" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> centril <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/122657-t-compiler/wg-nll/topic/weekly.20meeting.202019.2E03.2E27.html#162573245">(Apr 04 2019 at 22:00)</a>:</h4>
<p><span class="user-mention" data-user-id="116118">@Matthew Jasper</span>  <a href="https://github.com/rust-lang/rust/pull/58739#issuecomment-480078714" target="_blank" title="https://github.com/rust-lang/rust/pull/58739#issuecomment-480078714">https://github.com/rust-lang/rust/pull/58739#issuecomment-480078714</a>  -- haha! such timing</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/122657-t-compiler/wg-nll/topic/weekly%20meeting%202019.03.27/near/162573342" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> Matthew Jasper <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/122657-t-compiler/wg-nll/topic/weekly.20meeting.202019.2E03.2E27.html#162573342">(Apr 04 2019 at 22:01)</a>:</h4>
<p>I want this over with.</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/122657-t-compiler/wg-nll/topic/weekly%20meeting%202019.03.27/near/162573344" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> Matthew Jasper <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/122657-t-compiler/wg-nll/topic/weekly.20meeting.202019.2E03.2E27.html#162573344">(Apr 04 2019 at 22:01)</a>:</h4>
<p>a lot</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/122657-t-compiler/wg-nll/topic/weekly%20meeting%202019.03.27/near/162573486" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> Matthew Jasper <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/122657-t-compiler/wg-nll/topic/weekly.20meeting.202019.2E03.2E27.html#162573486">(Apr 04 2019 at 22:04)</a>:</h4>
<p>Now, I just need two more ticks for <a href="https://github.com/rust-lang/rust/issues/59114" target="_blank" title="https://github.com/rust-lang/rust/issues/59114">#59114</a></p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/122657-t-compiler/wg-nll/topic/weekly%20meeting%202019.03.27/near/162573538" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> Matthew Jasper <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/122657-t-compiler/wg-nll/topic/weekly.20meeting.202019.2E03.2E27.html#162573538">(Apr 04 2019 at 22:04)</a>:</h4>
<p>(and another 10 days)</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/122657-t-compiler/wg-nll/topic/weekly%20meeting%202019.03.27/near/162577979" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> centril <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/122657-t-compiler/wg-nll/topic/weekly.20meeting.202019.2E03.2E27.html#162577979">(Apr 04 2019 at 23:11)</a>:</h4>
<p><span class="user-mention" data-user-id="116118">@Matthew Jasper</span>  thanks for sticking with this!</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/122657-t-compiler/wg-nll/topic/weekly%20meeting%202019.03.27/near/162578039" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> centril <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/122657-t-compiler/wg-nll/topic/weekly.20meeting.202019.2E03.2E27.html#162578039">(Apr 04 2019 at 23:12)</a>:</h4>
<p>I really love <a href="https://github.com/rust-lang/rust/issues/59114" target="_blank" title="https://github.com/rust-lang/rust/issues/59114">#59114</a></p>



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